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Re: Blues TM first ever build!

Tue Jul 14, 2015 10:56 am

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They sound really good! And I can definitely tell that the woofers are breaking in.

That's good to hear!! I'm a little nervous whenever someone builds something I either recommend or design, because if there's one constant in speakers... it's that sound quality is subjective :) .

Don't be afraid to hammer on those if you so desire, that's my favorite thing about them. And while they're breaking in, the more you hammer them the faster they break in. Obviously don't play them to the point of popping and distorting, but those take a lot of abuse so IMO you can push them pretty hard before you get that.

Not sure if it was addressed yet, but what's your main go-to for music? Rock, country, hip-hop, rap, classical...? That would probably help you find a sub. I think Meniscus has a cost effective sub kit that sounds good, might be worth a call to them.
 
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Re: Blues TM first ever build!

Tue Jul 14, 2015 2:20 pm

Cool, I mainly listen to Rock and hip-hop so I think a sub would definitely be a good addition. The receiver doesn't have an input for a sub but I was reading that you don't necessarily need one. Would adding a sub mean I need to alter the crossovers my finished speakers?
 
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Re: Blues TM first ever build!

Tue Jul 14, 2015 10:40 pm

No crossover work will be needed on the Blues. Just make sure whatever sub you go with has a passive output, so you can cross the sub at (for example) 80 Hz, then cut the Blues off at 80 hz. I'd call Meniscus, I know they had a reasonably priced 8" or 10" subwoofer kit but I don't Remer what it was exactly.
 
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Re: Blues TM first ever build!

Sun Jul 19, 2015 3:32 pm

Cool, so that would mean I would plug the subwoofer into the receiver and then the speakers into the subwoofer? I'll call up meniscus and talk to them about what might be a good kit for me to build.
 
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Re: Blues TM first ever build!

Mon Jul 20, 2015 10:56 am

Not usually. The Plate amps to not have an active highpass, nor do that have channels to power the stereo speakers. You'll have to hook up the speakers to the receiver's left and right channels, with their setting to small if you want to meet the sub as Matt stated. The sub will be connected to the subwoofer pre-out from the receiver.
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Re: Blues TM first ever build!

Tue Jul 21, 2015 11:50 am

It's always something... not having a subwoofer output on that Yamaha is going to make this a little tricky. I don't think that receiver has a preamp outputs either, but it looks like it does have what's basically a "Tape 2" output, and I think you can use those for your subwoofer's plate amp, but I'm not exactly sure how?? Maybe someone here could chime in on that.

You did end up getting this Yamaha receiver, right? http://www.amazon.com/Yamaha-R-N301BL-N ... aha+r-n301

I'm curious if a MiniDSP might be the route you want to go, and use that to cross your subwoofer to your Blues. More expensive yes, but you would've spent more than the cost of the MiniDSP if you went with a receiver that had a subwoofer output than you will on the MiniDSP, and you'll have a lot more options with the MiniDSP than you would've with a subwoofer output. The question is... How do you integrate a MiniDSP with that receiver? Hopefully someone here can answer that better than I can. I think "Line 3's" output will work, but I'm not positive on that. If you click the link above, there's a picture of the inputs on the back of the receiver. Line 3 has both "playback", and "record" RCAs.

Another option is... what is the customer satisfaction return policy on that receiver? Possibly return and find a receiver with a subwoofer output, but that will cost more money.
 
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Re: Blues TM first ever build!

Tue Jul 21, 2015 7:36 pm

Cool thanks for the help, another option is my parents are going to give me some money to make a speaker kit for my little brother so maybe I could let him have my current receiver (the one you recommended) and then use some of the money to help buy myself a receiver with a subwoofer output. (It looks like there is a yamaha one for 499) Honestly the bass has been sounding really good on the blues so maybe I don't even need a subwoofer. Maybe I should just make myself another set of monitors for a four channel.

At this point I am really just looking for another project to do/trying to learn more about how everything works. At this point I am more concerned with practicing/learning than having a perfectly optimized system.


I will look into the mini DSP though.
 
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Re: Blues TM first ever build!

Thu Jul 23, 2015 10:18 am

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At this point I am really just looking for another project to do/trying to learn more about how everything works. At this point I am more concerned with practicing/learning than having a perfectly optimized system.


This I completely understand. Just a warning, speaker building is an insatiable disease :lol: . As far as the Blues go, I would definitely give them a little time before I made any decisions, because the more they loosen up, the better the bass and midrange depth gets. Hopefully you've been giving them a thorough workout :) . One track I was listening to the other day on my Blues MTM towers was Megadeth's song Trust, sounds incredible. But I also understand with a TM monitor (the one's you built) that you might want to add a subwoofer to give you some additional bottom end. Plus, adding a sub and cancelling the lower bass frequencies in your Blues will make them play insanely loud and still be crystal clear. I'd definitely add a sub before I added another pair of speakers if I were you.

If you're interested, here's a YouTube link to that track I was talking about...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ivqKTwmCmks
 
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Re: Blues TM first ever build!

Sun Jul 26, 2015 12:10 pm

Cool, If I got a receiver with a subwoofer out would I be golden as far as the networking goes? Maybe I will just invest in one of those and give my brother my current receiver. I might rather do that than try to figure out how to network with my receiver.
 
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Re: Blues TM first ever build!

Mon Jul 27, 2015 10:03 am

Depends on what kind of networking you want to do. Most of the receivers that'll have the subwoofer output as well as a highpass filter for your Blues will be home theater receivers. For example, research this Pioneer SC-07 receiver. This will do everything you want as far as sound and connect-ability go, but I think being a mildly older receiver (new in 2008-2009) it'll lack in some of the network capabilities. http://www.ebay.com/itm/Pioneer-Elite-S ... 3cfe1f31ab

That's an awesome receiver none the less, and either that or a SC-05 would be a good choice. You can use those in 2 channel stereo, but you'll have features for home theater too if you ever wanted to go that route. It really wouldn't be lacking anywhere in terms of output that I can think of.

It also depends on what you're referring to when you say "networking". Pandora? In the end, there's always something missing on all of them ;)

Edit: Just FYI, if you're patient and you watch for either the Pioneer SC-05 or the SC-07, you can usually find a really nice used one on eBay for around $300.

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