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User feedback thread for v1.0

Sun Mar 31, 2013 12:11 am

The program has been downloaded a fair number of times. I've received a small amount of feedback from a few specific users, but not much otherwise. I've started this thread to provide a starting point for users to post their thoughts, likes, dislikes, etc. Please feel free to chime in.

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Re: User feedback thread for v1.0

Sun Apr 14, 2013 2:55 pm

First off, great work so far. I have had a little time to look at W-PCD and found it fairly easy to use. I will continue to play with it and report back. Here is some of the things I’ve come across so far.
1. If you try to load a zma that the program doesn’t like you get a unhandled error. I haven’t tried a frd file yet but chances are you will get the same error. Need to trap error and have it pop a message box saying the file is bad or not compatible.
2. The box for Initial directory always defaults back to C:/. Would really like to have it remember the directory I’m using. Let’s say you load your Saved session file after that when you go to load a frd or zma file the program should open in the same directory as the saves file came from.
3. Boxes for entering uf for C, I think should be 2 decimal places.
That’s it for now.
Thanks for all the hard work you have put into this program. Jeff
 
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Re: User feedback thread for v1.0

Mon Apr 15, 2013 10:34 am

Jeff S. wrote:
First off, great work so far. I have had a little time to look at W-PCD and found it fairly easy to use. I will continue to play with it and report back. Here is some of the things I’ve come across so far.
1. If you try to load a zma that the program doesn’t like you get a unhandled error. I haven’t tried a frd file yet but chances are you will get the same error. Need to trap error and have it pop a message box saying the file is bad or not compatible.

I've got changes in the newest release ready, but I'm not sure if I've got it all covered. If you'd send me a copy of your file, I could easily trace the problem if it still is in the code.

2. The box for Initial directory always defaults back to C:/. Would really like to have it remember the directory I’m using. Let’s say you load your Saved session file after that when you go to load a frd or zma file the program should open in the same directory as the saves file came from.
3. Boxes for entering uf for C, I think should be 2 decimal places.

This directory issue hit me early on as well. It was supposed to default to an entry you make in the initial directly textbox. Initially, if you navigated elsewhere in opening a file, it stayed on the new one. If you leave it at the startup value as default (C:\), that's what stays. Did you try editing the Initial Directory textbox before loading? Edit that and your first open dialog will be in that one.

This is all improved in the next release. The directory dialog now uses the standard Windows directory selection dialog. It also remains as the default. It is saved in the session file, so starting with a session file, you navigate to it and load. When you import a session file, the value in the textbox is over-ridden by the value in the session file. You can change it afterwards, of course. If, however, you load a file from another directory later, the next load will still be from the textbox setting. If feedback shows this to be an issue, I'll consider changing it. I looked at it as users having a project folder in which the necessary files would be placed. It's a tradeoff.

I initially had the cap scrollers set at two decimal places. The problem is that if you use the scroller, the changes are far too slow. It makes the scroller almost useless. You can, however, manually enter any value you want, it just displays a single decimal place. The data is still there. I've never found much need for two decimal places in caps, especially given the usual tolerances of caps.

That’s it for now.
Thanks for all the hard work you have put into this program. Jeff

Thanks for the feedback.

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Re: User feedback thread for v1.0

Mon Apr 15, 2013 1:33 pm

Dave, That sounds good. The zma file I'll have to find again and email it to you. Question this is to catch the error within the program and give the end user a message box telliing them it's a bad file or are going to try and fix the zma file?
 
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Re: User feedback thread for v1.0

Mon Apr 15, 2013 2:13 pm

Jeff S. wrote:
Dave, That sounds good. The zma file I'll have to find again and email it to you. Question this is to catch the error within the program and give the end user a message box telliing them it's a bad file or are going to try and fix the zma file?

It depends on what the error is. The code already ignores some specific issues, but with flat text files there's no way to correct all that could occur. I've tried to anticipate a number of them, but no doubt there will be cases arising that I have not foreseen. Currently the user is notified via popup for errors that are caught.

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Re: User feedback thread for v1.0

Tue Apr 16, 2013 12:43 pm

Jeff, I tested the file that you sent. As you indicated, it was missing the phase column. I tested it with the version I'm about to release. It handled it fine, notifying the user that it was missing a data column.

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Re: User feedback thread for v1.0

Fri Apr 19, 2013 3:13 pm

Version 1.1.0 Revision 2

Dave, I like the new look and so far so good, will work with it this weekend some more. And report back.
The new buttons for system tab window and the new schematic overlay are great.
There is a couple of things: I did leave the systems tab window open and tried changing values in the crossover. The system tab window doesn’t update. This isn’t a problem for me just thought I’d let you know.
The other thing that I think would be nice though is to have a system tab button on the tweeter, mid, and woofer pages if possible?
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Re: User feedback thread for v1.0

Fri Apr 19, 2013 4:19 pm

Thanks, Jeff. To be sure of no confusion, are you saying that you changed the crossover values in the separate overlay window? If so, that is the reason. You can change values at this time in the overlay window, but that does not change the design. There should be a mousehover message saying this on those tab displays. This is mentioned in the Status page, but I should probably make it more prominent. There's a technical reason related to how C# works and how I've set up this window. It was something of an afterthought. The issue is that if the code attempts to modify a control that is currently hidden, as could happen if you change a tweeter, but the other window has the tweeter tab hidden (e.g., the midrange is displayed instead), the update doesn't work. I don't like that, but I've found no way around that yet.

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Re: User feedback thread for v1.0

Fri Apr 19, 2013 5:32 pm

Dave, I had the system tab open on the bottom of the screen and tried to change values in the tweeter section. I did read the pop up message on the schematic tab and did not try that one.

That was why I thought having a "Open System Tab Window" on the tweeter, mid, and Woofer pages would be nice. I have only thinkered with writing code and not sure if this could be done but here goes. Is it possible to say automatically close the system tab window when you click outside the window area. This way if a user forgets to close it and tries to go back to say tweak a value it would close automatically and then when reopened it would be updated.

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Re: User feedback thread for v1.0

Fri Apr 19, 2013 5:49 pm

Hi Dave,

I played around with your new release and it looks good. I think that I noticed a couple of things that you might want to look at. It would be very convenient to have the system tab window able to remain up as you shift from tab to tab, particularly the schematic tab. In addition, it seems that if you set an overlay and then pull in a different configuration, you have to re-choose the crossover type to get the graphic to display the old overlay with the new response.

Thanks so much for working on this. It has great potential and is already very useful.

Jay

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